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			<title>The Men Who Killed JFK</title>
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			<title>Here we go again: Israel Strikes Syria</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 01:42:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*Robert Fisk: The truth is that after Israel’s air strikes, we are involved 
If the EU and US say nothing about these attacks, approval is granted* 
 
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Another Israeli raid – “daring” of course, in the words of Israel’s supporters, and the second in two days – on...</description>
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Lights in the sky over Damascus. <br />
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Another Israeli raid – “daring” of course, in the words of Israel’s supporters, and the second in two days – on Bashar al-Assad’s weaponry and military facilities and weapons stores. The story is already familiar: the Israelis wanted to prevent a shipment of Iranian-made Fateh-110 missiles reaching Hezbollah in Lebanon;  they were being sent by the Syrian government. According, at least, to a ‘Western intelligence source’. Anonymous, of course. <br />
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And it opens the old question: why when the Syrian regime is fighting for its life would it send advanced missiles out of Syria?<br />
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But the Syrians themselves have officially confirmed that military installations were hit by the Israelis. And not for the first time during the rebellion. <br />
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The Fateh-110 – the new version, at least – has a range of perhaps 250km. And it could indeed reach Tel Aviv from southern Lebanon. If the Hezbollah has actually acquired any. But why would the Syrians send them, as US sources were also claiming last night, when the Americans themselves claimed only last December that the Syrians had used the same ground-to-ground missiles against rebel forces in Syria.<br />
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In other words, the Syrian regime was prepared to dispense with their rockets to Lebanon when they were already using them in the brutal war in Syria…  Now there are other questions to be asked. If the Syrian air force can use their MiGs so devastatingly – and at such civilian cost – against their enemies inside Syria, why couldn’t they have sent their jets to protect Damascus and attack the Israeli aircraft? <br />
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continued-  <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/robert-fisk-the-truth-is-that-after-israels-air-strikes-we-are-involved-8604593.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...d-8604593.html</a></div>

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			<title>Deadliest Plane Crash Ever</title>
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			<title>The Battle of Stalingrad</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 11:28:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*Battle of Stalingrad: Russia marks 70th anniversary of key WWII fight (PHOTOS)* 
 
                  
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<b>Battle of Stalingrad: Russia marks 70th anniversary of key WWII fight (PHOTOS)</b><br />
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                                        <font color="#ffffff">            A soldier going to throw a grenade, Stalingrad, 1942 (RIA Novosti / Zelma)     </font><br />
The bloodiest and longest standoff of WWII &#8211; the Battle of Stalingrad &#8211; lasted 200 days and claimed 2 million lives. Russia is marking the 70th anniversary of this epic struggle, which became the turning point leading to overthrow of Nazi Germany.''<br />
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*The anniversary of the Soviet victory in what was the biggest land battle of WWII will be widely celebrated throughout Russia on Saturday. About 1,000 guests have arrived in Volgograd &#8211; formerly Stalingrad &#8211; to participate in the celebrations, including a military parade, battle reconstructions, fireworks and more.<br />
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In honor of the celebrations, the city is changing back to its old name of Stalingrad. In 1961, following the Soviet policy of deconstructing the cult of personality around Stalin, the city was renamed Volgograd.<br />
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On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin hosted a reception at the Kremlin to honor some 200 WWII veterans.<i> &#8220;We have to do everything so the memory of the Battle of Stalingrad, the truth about it, will never fade away,&#8221;</i> Putin said. <i>&#8220;From this point &#8211; from the unbowed city &#8211; our forces began their march to Berlin.&#8221;</i><br />
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			<title>Massacre at Wounded Knee</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 08:30:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><span style="font-family: tahoma"> <span style="font-family: Arial">I HAVE HAD GUNS IN EVERY HOME I EVER LIVED IN  THROUGH MY WHOLE LIFE, I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY OF THEM KILL SOMEONE.   <br />
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</span></div></div><span style="font-family: verdana">     December 29, 2012  marked the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee  Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota .  These 297 people,  in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th  Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms &#8220;for their own safety and  protection&#8221;.   The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had  peacefully turned in their firearms.  The Calvary began shooting, and managed to  wipe out the entire camp.  <font color="#d24726">Two hundred of the 297 victims were  women and children</font>.  About 40 members of  the 7th Cavalry were killed, but over half of them were victims of fratricide  from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms.  Twenty members  of the 7th Cavalry's death squad were deemed &#8220;National Heroes&#8221; and were awarded  the Medal of Honor for their acts of &#8216;heroism&#8217;.<br />
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We hear very little of  Wounded Knee today.  It is usually not mentioned in our history classes or  books.  What little that does exist about Wounded Knee is normally a sanitized  &#8220;Official Government Explanation&#8221;.  And there are several historically  inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre which appear in  movie scripts and are not the least bit representative of the actual events that  took place that day.<br />
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<b><font color="blue">Wounded  Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United  States history.  It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.</font></b><br />
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Before you jump  on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect  on the real purpose of the Second Amendment, the right of the people to take up  arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of an  invading army or an oppressive government.  The argument that the Second  Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine.  When the  United States Constitution was drafted, hunting was an everyday chore carried  out by men and women to put meat on the table each night and target shooting was  an unheard of concept.  Musket balls were a precious commodity and were  certainly not wasted on target shooting.  The Second Amendment was written by  people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe and it refers to the  right of American citizens to be armed, should such tyranny arise in the United  States .<br />
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As time goes forward, the average citizen in the United States  continually loses little chunks of personal freedom or &#8220;liberty&#8221;.  Far too many  times, unjust gun control bills were passed and signed into law under the guise  of &#8220;for your safety or protection&#8221;.  <font color="#D24726">The  Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, was expanded and continues under  Barack Obama</font>.  It is just one of  many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy.   Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table and will most likely be  attacked to facilitate the path for the removal of our firearms, all in the name  of safety.<br />
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Before we blindly accept whatever new firearms legislation  that is about to be doled out, we should stop and think about something for just  one minute.  Evil does exist in our world.  It always has and always will.   Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts.  In the Bible one of  the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel.  <b><font color="#D24726">We  cannot legislate evil into extinction.</font></b><br />
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Evil exists all  around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years,  across the globe, <font color="#D24726">evil  and malevolence is most often found in the hands of those with the power, the  governments</font>.  That greatest human  tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be  attributed to governments.  Who do the governments always target?  Scapegoats  and enemies within their own border, but only after they have been disarmed to  the point where they are no longer a threat.  Ask any Native American, and they  will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to  their demise.  Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate  millions of them and they will answer &#8220;We were disarmed before it happened&#8221;.   Ask any Jew what Hitler&#8217;s first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust  was.  The confiscation of firearms from the people.<br />
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Wounded Knee is the  prime example of why the Second Amendment exists and why we should vehemently  resist any attempts to infringe on our Rights to Bear Arms.  Without the Second  Amendment we will be stripped of any ability to defend ourselves.<br />
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			<title>Jamestown Cannibals</title>
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                                                                                                         <font size="3"><b>Research: Jamestown settlers ate humans</b></font><br />
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                                              <b>Winter of 1609-1610 was treacherous for settlers</b><br />
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<i><span style="font-family: arial">Archaeologists from the Smithsonian Institution and the Jamestown Rediscovery Project announced evidence of survival <br />
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                                                       (CNN) -                  The  winter of 1609 to 1610 was treacherous for early American settlers.  Some 240 of the 300 colonists at Jamestown, in Virginia, died during  this period, called the &quot;Starving Time,&quot; when they were under siege and  had no way to get food. <br />
Desperate  times led to desperate measures. New evidence suggests that includes  eating the flesh of fellow colonists who had already died. <br />
Archaeologists  revealed Wednesday their analysis of 17th century skeletal remains  suggesting that settlers practiced cannibalism to survive. <br />
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        Researchers  unearthed an incomplete human skull and tibia (shin bone) in 2012 that  contain several features suggesting that this particular person had been  cannibalized. The remains come from a 14-year-old girl of English  origin, whom historians are calling &quot;Jane.&quot; <br />
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There  are about half a dozen accounts that mention cannibalistic behaviors at  that time, although the record is limited, said Douglas Owsley,  division head of physical anthropology at the Smithsonian National  Museum of National History.<br />
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Jane's  remains were found in a 17th-century trash deposit at the former site  of James Fort. William Kelso, chief archaeologist at the Jamestown  Rediscovery Project said at a briefing Wednesday that the fort was built  in 1607, but has been washed away. Kelso and colleagues began digging  in 1994 and have been excavating the site on Jamestown Island ever  since. <br />
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The  back of the skull contains markings that could have been made by a  small hatchet or cleaver striking it. The cranium cracked open from the  last hit. Forensic experts say it appears the person striking the skull  was right-handed. <br />
The  skull's mandible contains cuts all over it and inside, which experts  say reflect an attempt to take tissue off of the face and throat with a  tool such as a knife. The cheek area reflects a &quot;sawing action&quot; of a  tool going back and forth, Owsley said. There are also sharp passages of  a knife. <br />
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The damage done to these remains indicates that whoever inflicted it was not a skilled butcher, he said. <br />
&quot;Instead, what we see is hesitancy, trial, tentativeness and an absolute total lack of experience.&quot; <br />
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The  shin bone that archaeologists recovered also appeared to have been  chopped, but in a way that more resembles classic butchering techniques,  Owsley said. <br />
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&quot;The  person doing this was clearly interested in, based on what would have  been accepted cuisine in the 17th century, in cheek meat, muscles of the  face -- that area -- and tongue, and also in terms of 17th century  traditional cuts, would also include the brain,&quot; he said. <br />
It  is possible that more than one person was involved in this, given the  disparity in butchering practices seen in the head compared to the shin  bone.<br />
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